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    Default Operator Intervention and Park Issue

    Let me preface this post with the fact that a recent event has taken all my energy and attention so I may not be as focused as usual and miss something even obvious. Bob spent some good time getting my OI script (operator intervention) right to park the mount and close the dome when an OI event took place. I had installed a new Digital Loggers switch (backup) in my bedroom so that in the event should an OI occur the switch would activate an outlet and turn on a light. Up until a few days ago I was thinking that's all it took to prevent OIs from occurring but that proved not to be the case. I've had two since and the 1st, 2 days ago I believe, did as expected and parked the mount and closed the roof.Last night/this morning however wasn't the case. ACP was sitting there this morning waiting for the scope to park, which physically it was, but not acknowledged. So the roof was open until I noticed the issue. I don't think this is an ACP issue as commanding a park from ACP did not result in it parking nor did an attempt to park using the ASCOM driver. Both indicated it was parking although not moving at all. It wasn't until I told APCC to park did it do so successfully and then finish the weather closing. Fortunately my weather station shows no indication of rain last night. I have not looked at either OI log reports, I've been very busy making other arrangements and notifications that have taken my focus and time. I probably shouldn't have Expert running at all at this time.

    My usual nights run is with ACP Expert running and controlling the system. APCC (AP App for their mounts) is running and making pointing corrections etc. This is on a Windows 7 Pro 64 bit system so none of that W10 stuff to interfere with operations. What I can't understand is why only APCC seemed to have any effect on parking the mount when ACP and ASCOM driver didn't. What could be so different? Isn't it the same call to the driver? Does one have higher priority over the other? What can cause a park command not to complete even though it is in the commanded park position? What the attached screen frame doesn’t show is that the mount is in the Park 4 position and not tracking.

    At the time when I noticed this morning the Weather Safety script had started but could not finish due to parking issue. If I remember correctly this morning's OI only happened when the scope indicated it was parked through APCC. That's when the Weather Safety script completed and the OI email was sent....I think.
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    This is a reply from Ray Gralak from the AP forums:

    "I do know that ACP has had a problem with getting hung waiting for the driver's Synchronous Park operation to complete, which is why there is now an Asynchronous Park option in the AP V2 ASCOM driver.

    Are you using the asynchronous park option in the latest ASCOM driver? (v5.30.10)

    If you don't know where to find that option here is a screen shot:"

    See attached file

    I'm reasonably sure mine isn't set as such but will be now. Actually mine is set with it checked so still a bit of a mystery.
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    Hi Steve -- I'm not sure what to do with this at the moment:

    I don't think this is an ACP issue as commanding a park from ACP did not result in it parking nor did an attempt to park using the ASCOM driver. Both indicated it was parking although not moving at all. It wasn't until I told APCC to park did it do so successfully and then finish the weather closing.

    What I can't understand is why only APCC seemed to have any effect on parking the mount when ACP and ASCOM driver didn't. What could be so different? Isn't it the same call to the driver? Does one have higher priority over the other? What can cause a park command not to complete even though it is in the commanded park position? What the attached screen frame doesn’t show is that the mount is in the Park 4 position and not tracking.
    I understand what Ray said too. ACP calls Park() and then awaits AtPark, so it has been async for many many years. And AP's sync parking hasn't been a big problem, just an annoyance. Let's see what happens tonight.

    Pending more info, I'm going to call this an AP issue based on what you said above, and moving this to the Hardware section.
    -- Bob

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    Interestingly I started up and had a weather event with 56 emails for that weather event. Same issue with parking and had to use APCC to park the mount. I restarted and after startup I had to have APCC park to finish the park as being directed from ACP or ASCOM didn't work. I parked as stated and then ran shutdown, disconnected APCC, shut down Scheduler, and then just let it sit with ACP running, nothing connected. I think I need a remote session when possible.
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    What I failed to say is these were within several minutes of the same weather event while the weather script was trying unsuccessfully to execute.
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    Can we do this Monday? We're bugging out over this weekend. If I can I'll call you later today for a try to see this. I'll need to get the info to prove that ACP calling Park() is not completing, and why not (from ACP's point of view). Did this just start happening?
    -- Bob

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    Thanks Bob,

    As a contingency let's plan on Monday. Ray made some driver suggestions that may well have cleared things up and I'm still deep in making notifications since Mom passed away this past Sunday....seems like a month ago.

    I'll let you know if this clears things up. I'm leery at this point but overwhelmed as well so there's that.
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    Ohhhh Steve, I am so sorry for your loss... Take is easy. I'll check with you Monday though now my calendar got filled with an office service call and a support online appointment. Let me know though and I'll jump on with if needed as soon as I can.

    From what I read ACP is telling the mount to park and it's just not doing it (or at least not ever reporting AtPark = true).
    -- Bob

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    Actually at some point I somehow managed to set the ASCOM driver to use the IP address. If that was the problem it's been that way for some time as I haven't set any settings in months and I can't even begin to imagine why I would have changed that in the ASCOM driver. So far testing by opening the roof, creating a unsafe weather event, the weather script running, it has worked. Just dawned on me though I hadn't moved the scope from park but then it was doing that with it in the park 4 position anyway and it initiated the script and finished whereas before it would be waiting on park forever regardless.
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    Ok, the thread remains open if you find more info and can reproduce it reliably.
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